Sunday, June 8, 2014

TCPL Packaging - Probable Candidate To Repeat Manjushree Technopack


When we decided to enter Manjushree Technopack, it was a risk taken entering in such industry where debt levels are high on account capital intensive nature of work. We were highly surprise to see it rewarding nearly 75% within less than 3 months of its recommendation here. But from that, it seems that market is ready to rewards stocks which have strong presence in markets and goodwill among some of the high profile customers, inspite of high debt levels. In the similar business, but in a different sector, we have a company, which is providing an alternative packaging provision i.e. Cartons, to various industries in form of TCPL Packaging.

TCPL Packaging Ltd is one of India's largest manufacturers of printed folding cartons.
Today, TCPL Packaging operates at six manufacturing units, three in Silvassa, two in Haridwar, one in Goa. All the plants are ISO 9001: 2008, ISO 22000 : 2005 certified and are also compliant with BRC/IoP Global Standard-Packaging Issue 3, which is suitable for direct food contact. In addition, plants at Silvassa and Haridwar are also FSC certified & SEDEX Compliant.
TCPL is one of the largest exporters of printed cartons from India. It regularly caters to consumers in countries like UK, The Netherlands, UAE, Bangladesh etc.
Exports constitute about 22% of TCPL's annual revenues.

TCPL manufactures following range of products:
Printed blanks & outers, Folding cartons, Litho Lamination, Plastic cartons, Blister paper, Shelf ready packaging.

Industries Served:
-- Liquor
-- Food & Beverages
-- FMCG
-- Pharma
-- Few Others

List Of Esteemed Custormers:
http://www.tcpl.in/portfolio_customers.html

From 34 lacs sales in 1990, to 395 Cr sales today, the company has made its presence felt in the market. Currently the company converts more than 3500 tons of paperboard every month.
One of the finest company in the similar sector, is Paper Products Ltd (Ofcourse, with many other products in their portfolio)., which is also fundamentally strong company. But looking at the data, it is presently having more than 8 times the market cap as that of TCPL, and having 2.5 times the sales. Hence TCPL provides a better opportunity at current market price, but that comes with a cost that TCPL is not so popular among investors, and hence may test ones patience to stay connected with the script.

The AR Packaging Group AB, Lund Sweden and TCPL Packaging signed a strategic partnership agreement on 22nd October, 2012. The objective of the agreement is a strategic partnership mainly in co-operation in the manufacturing, sourcing and sales and marketing in India for the solid folding carton market. 

Over the past 5 years, the company has shown CAGR of 26% in sales and 45% in profit. The company has regularly paid dividend and that too with decent dividend yield.
The updated balance sheet shows an increase in Fixed Assets as well as Capital Work In Progress. It may have a positive impact in the future.
The book value of the company is also strong at almost 90 Rs per share.
As per the Dec'13 numbers, one can see in the notes section of the result sheet that the Company has decided to expand its operations by setting a plant near Guwahati in State of Assam. It is expected to be ready for commercial production by the end of year 2014.

My Views:
The company ended FY'14 with the sales figure of 395 Cr and net profit of 12.5 Cr. The net profit remained sub-dued throughout the year on account of higher input cost, and as always, it hardly matters to us until the company keeps growing with sales every year, and leaving no stone unturned for expansion, if possible.
For the full year, the company reported an EPS of 14.37, which makes the P/E ratio look cheap at close to 7, against the industry wide average P/E of 16. Company has declared dividend of 2.5 Rs per share this year, which is slightly lesser than 2.65 Rs per share paid last year, but that is because of lesser net profit. Still, a yield of close to 2.5% is not bad.
One has to understand that liquidity has always been an issue in the counter, and hence it is prone to violent movements in either direction based on performance. The recommendation here is for long term, so one might have to wait till a period when company will have enough to attract big investors, and hence, be a regularly traded counter on stock exchange.
As said earlier also, it might test ones patience, so enter, based on your risk profile, and your understanding of the company's future.
Not invested so far, but will look to enter in future, when I will have enough cash in hand. :)

153 comments:

  1. Good delivery based buying pick up seen in Gulshan and Photoquip in past 2 days... Hoping for better days ahead, especially in Photoquip, as Gulshan Polyols, has already impressed with its run-up in past 1 month...

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  2. But in case of Photoquip it seems to be a case of tired bull-unloading !!!! It has not participated at all in the small-cap bull run and rather it has gone down and now volumes too are supporting the downward trend....

    totalview

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    1. Gulshan also used to be in the same range for past 3 years, if I am not wrong from May '11 to May '14, and suddenly we have a breakout....
      We might have a similar case photoquip, once profitability starts...
      Its just a matter of time, if you are not a short term player... :)

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    2. Hi Kunal,

      Gulshan is rocking every day and making new highs. Today it climbed upto 174 and settled at 168.50 !!!!

      And here is a block-buster news item from Gulshan Polyols. I am just sharing the link and rest I am leaving for Kunal to elaborate it and it's impact on profitability and share price :D :D :D :D :D

      totalview

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    3. And now something on Photoquip !!!! Today it made news for another reason !!! Traded a robust volume of more than 73K which includes a bulk deal also !!! Details are awaited on bulk deals !!! Deliverable volumes more than 43K !!!! But there is no improvement on price front rather it made a 52 weeks' low of 25.20 !!!!! It seems my apprehension is proving correct and tired bull-unloading is taking place unless it's a proxy transfer !!!

      toalview

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    4. 5 great news from Gulshan at one go.... Amazing....
      But frankly speaking, I knew something was coming, looking at the share price movement since friday....

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    5. Photoquip India - My worst apprehensions proved correct !!!! Bulk deal of more than 37K @ 25.67 and Nitin Arora sold it :-D !!!!! So the wait is going to be longer for existing shareholders !!! Nitin Arora held the shares for more than three years and finally is in the process of selling it at throw away prices !!!!! Photoquip will test the patience more and more and more....

      totalview

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    6. I am more interested in finding out who all bought 40k shares today, to be finding a positive way out....
      May be it was a planned transfer, and we might have promoters buying report out in a few days time, to be over optimistic... :-D

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  3. I hope it repeats history.....entering as soon as it hits lower side....Thanks a lot Kunal....your calls are awesome.....

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  4. Kunal, if we closely watch results - net profit fell from 13.50 Cr in FY13 to 12.50 Cr in FY14 ... De-growth of 7.4% ... Hence the reduction in Dividend ... Moreover, sales growth is just 6% and Interest Outgo increased by 18% ... I`m really concerned about its Debt ... It has Debt-to-Equity ratio of 1.61 and it has been in the same level for the last three financial years ... As a result RoCE is also very low at 5.5%..did not see any action from management to reduce debt since long time...
    any thoughts on these points? But yes, we cannot rule out future growth in this sector....
    -Mayur

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    1. The nature of operations is the reason..as I said earlier also...

      The ratio is almost similar even for Manjushree Technopack. If you read the first para, I mentioned the same thing, just because I also consider it to be a big factor....

      My point was, in such scenario, if Manjushree can accelarate, so can TCPL.

      One of my friend Anshul, has some of his friends working in packaging industry, and he also mentioned the same point saying that, it is almost impossible to sustain in such industry without healthy debt levels.

      May be Anshul can add points better than me... :-)

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    2. Hi Mayur,

      Yes, my friend works in similar industry. Their cashflow is low as they don't receive payments on delivering the product. The whole industry is wokring on trust factor and they work on this basis only. It would be very difficult to reduce the debt. If company decided to expand or add more clients, I think their debt will also increase. So, lets not focus on debt factor too much as it is a part of their operation.
      I hope I have explained properly Kunal, trying to improve. :)

      Thanks
      Anshul

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    3. To explain better, it works like this. When there is new requirement from the client, new setup is required which involves high initial investment. That is taken from a finance company. Both the lender and receiver agree on some price to pay(some part of profit) on a monthly basis. Then, it keeps on working like that and initial debt is not considered that much. So, its good if client keeps on adding without considering the debt level.
      Yes, we are assuming that nothing wrong will happen in the industry setup. :)

      Thanks
      Anshul

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    4. Hello kunal,
      Granules is going great :)
      Whats your view on Fluidomat?
      Holding 200 shares @ 125.
      Want to accumulate like granules.
      Whats your view for long term on fluidomat?

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  5. Thanks Anshul for that explanation... Hope it helps many understand the business....

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  6. Hi Anand,

    Good to see you after long time...

    Fluidomat around 130-150 is fairly valued, don't find any under-valuation, but the performance may improve, if growth cycle picks up, on account of its heavy client list..

    Once industrial cycle starts going well, fluidomat will automatically start growing well in sales, unlike past few years.

    Hold for long.

    Regards.

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  7. Setu Securities Pvt Ltd bought 61k shares of Dynemic Products today at an avg cost price of 36.47, in a bulk deal...
    http://www.bseindia.com/stock-share-price/stockreach_bulkblock.aspx?scripcode=532707&expandable=9

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  8. 5 major announcement made by Gulshan Polyols today, which can rewrite its future..
    Link: http://www.bseindia.com/xml-data/corpfiling/AttachLive/Gulshan_Polyols_Ltd_100614.pdf

    The best part was commencement of IMFL, for which we had to wait a lot.

    I can sense the stock going back to 2008 highs of 619 Rs in future...
    In the meanwhile, I found after taking Mar '14 numbers into consideration, the book value has shot up to 207 Rs per share...

    As far as I feel, profitability might still be in check, but sales will shoot up in times to come, and eventually profits will follow...

    At a price of 170, which is an increase of almost 70% in past 1 months, the stock still looks a very strong buy for long term...

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    1. Kunal,

      One very pertinent question !!! Today's communication from the Company to BSE contains 5 announcements. We very well know that Company is shy of reporting developments on expansion, diversification, commencement of business etc. either to BSE or through media. It seems management has somewhat been coaxed or forced to report the developments. In fact, in many years this is the first reporting on company's business related developments. My question what would have been the effect on market sentiment and resultantly on share price if each item would have been reported periodically and separately over a period of time say one to two months !!!!!! And how the present announcement will influence the share price :D :D

      totalview

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    2. Not in a position to comment about management's approach on publicly announcing the updates. That may be one of the reason, that could have kept the stock price in check.

      But with regards to stock price movement, we will have to figure how much of an increase in past few days, was on account of this announcement that came in today. It is quite obvious, that many people knew about this upcoming news, which is why the delivery was in excess of 1 lakh in past 3 days only.
      It seems that most of big investors, who had the script in radar, might have already entered in this period. May be it only came to a surprise for retail investors like us.
      But certainly hoping to see a good gap up opening tomorrow.
      And suddenly we have 200 within reach now... :-) :-)

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    3. Gulshan Polyols getting re-rated has started !!!! I expect stock to trade at 10X or even more within 12 months' time !!!!! Moreover, good accumulation has already taken place with value investors !!!! My approach on this counter will be not to sell or do any profit-booking because of it's deep undervaluation :D :D

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    4. Hi Kunal,

      Good Morning !!! I suppose it's re-rating only on Gulshan counter !!! Stock is locked at Upper Circuit at 205.55 with more than 40K volume by 10.00 AM !!!!! :-D :-D

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    5. Wow ! Some one bought more than 46K shares @ 205.55 UC in a single transactions !!! Is it some MF/institutional or HNI buying ? Till 10.27 AM 95K shares traded and I am sure there is no promoter buying involved :D :D !!!!!! Among our picks this seems to be a real gem !!!! I would like to hold it tight further !!! :D :D

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    6. Mostly it will be some HNI or a big investor. Promoters so far has always preferred accumulation in small quantities. They might go for so many shares at one go...
      Lets see, how much this rally is successful in taking the stock to its fair value... Fingers crossed...

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  9. Sarath RamakrishnanJune 10, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    Hi Kunal,

    Do you think lack of capacity expansion would be a constraint for future growth of Fluidomat?

    Thanks

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    1. It depends on the demand of their products. They might consider it, if they are able to find few more valued clients, or if they fall short of supply to existing clients, if growth picks up. It is a niche player in its segment due to lack of competition, which is favorable, and which might force them to go for capacity expansion some day...

      It is like a if-else case, you never know, you just have to wait and watch...

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  10. Thanks kunal,
    Well I have another question too.
    One of my friend suggested me to put stop loss for all shares of granules I have on daily basis.
    Till today I have never used to put stop loss.
    I afraid few players in counter can trigger the price and can buy my shares in a second at far lower price!! With increase in daily volume in granules, I am bit relived from this worry. But I was holding Heritage food where I have seen some 10% down for few seconds only, that can trigger price and snatch share at lower level. (This happened before split)
    What you do with your shares and suggest here?
    Regards

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    1. Regarding your point with Heritage Foods, I have seen that happening with many but as I have been repeatedly saying that, I am not at all interested in short term trading activities. Hence it would be difficult for me, to help you with that...

      Regarding my strategy, I am least bothered about the stock price on daily basis, in terms of finding opportunities to enter/exit. Whenever I put a buy/sell order, I hardly look at the movement of stock price on that particular day. I just have the buying/selling price in mind for any stock, which is the only thing I use for trading.

      Can't help you much in this case. :)

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  11. I have recently got many mails regarding fresh entry in some of the stocks discussed here. Suddenly, it seems that people are getting more interested in stock markets because of the current run up or so called Modi wave. :)

    It is very difficult to judge whether the stock will deliver similar returns in coming years, as it did in the past. Nobody knows that. Hence entry price is considered an important factor, not because we have a doubt on company's potential, but because we are not sure on what market has to offer & when.
    When time is right, even the worst shows performance above expectations, and when the time is not right, even the best shows below par performance.
    Hence we might have to react and change positions depending on the situation, because finally, its our hard earned money, which is at stake. Of course, there can be a risk, but it is up to an extent, and the extent varies from person to person.

    So, its always advisable that decision whether to enter a particular stock should be ones own depending on his viewpoints in current scenario.
    Just for reference, I have created a sidebar widget, which shows the price at which I recommended a particular stock, and based on it, one can take their decision to invest in present scenario.
    As usual, I will try my best to help you in taking your decision.

    All the best!!!!!

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  12. I have gone through photoquip.
    Good company and LED revenue growth is impressive.but,
    Dont you think that LED light market in India is oversaturated with very large players like GE, phillips, OSRAM, havells etc etc.
    Also CORVI's product range is small and lack gov oriented products. Gov orders contribute aroud 50% of LED light market.
    LED industry can grow from current 1200-1500cr to 4000-5000 cr in next few years. Thats a good part.
    Will keep close watch on this.

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    1. Hi Anand,

      Corvi range is expected to be launched for Street lights, public places, govt sector shortly. They have got the approval from labs etc. Best part is that they are offering 5 years' warranty which I suppose no one is offering !!! I would term 20 crores top line in the first full year of operations as good !!! Further, they are continuously upgrading their product range !!!! Once it turns the corner on bottom line it should be a smooth sailing. Iceing on the cake they have a media and TV ads lined up in 2014 itself !!!!! If one has the patience and holding capacity these low prices may not be available once bottomline clicks.

      totalview

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    2. Hi Anand & totalview,
      My concern is why the company reporting losses in LED segment which supposed to be high growth n revenue segment..Although, sales are increased a bit but comapany suffered losses on account of LED bizz..what positive triggers are you guys expecting to turnaround? May be we have to watch for next 1-2 quarters results?

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    3. Mayur,

      Whenever a new business/venture is carried out and that too with a brand building it involves lot of sunk cost. I shall try to explain you how it happens with a live example. Ariel was launched by Proctor & Gamble in good old days and particularly pitching against mighty SURF. I remember vividly immediately before launch of Ariel P&G PAT was Rs.8 crores and in the year Ariel was launched it returned with a net loss of Rs.32 crores and all solely and exclusively due to launch of ARIEL. But look today how ARIEL is placed against SURF. Caveat : I am missing whether it was Richardson Hindustan or P&G (Richardson Hind became P&G due to int'l changes in ownership) but does not matter as far as our issue is concerned. Hope it helps :D

      totalview

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    4. Sorry for not participating in the conversation, but that is because, I had a busy day in office... :(

      Excellent write up totalview.... can't agree with you more, especially because I was about to cite that same example... :D

      Mayur and Anand, if you are still not convinced, you can definitely wait for some more quarters or may be a year, and then rethink about it. Never force yourself to enter a particular stock looking at confidence of others. Let the same get built in you before taking action.... :)

      In the meanwhile, you can visit the following fb page, and can read some of the post/queries posted by people and their replies from corvi management.
      https://www.facebook.com/corvilight?ref=ts&fref=ts

      Lots of things can be learned about their products, quality and their increasing popularity, from this page also.

      Will keep posting more details when I have some more data.

      Regards.

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    5. Thanks to all for sharing thoughts. Will keep it under my radar....
      -mayur

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  13. Gulshan Polyols closed the day at 197.65 !!!! Another day of robust volumes and equally robust deliveries at 1.26 lacs and 0.82 lac respectively. It seems successful attempts were made to keep the upper circuit open to enable the lined-up buyers to mop up the floating stock from the market. This stock seems to be moving on the pattern of Dhanuka !!!! I am of the firm opinion if someone is doing jobbing on the counter it may be detrimental to financial health :-D One should hold tight on the counter and every meaningful dip is a buy !!!!!

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    1. It reminds me of the phrase you used earlier "Lambi race ka ghoda"

      The phrase seemed to be myth to many, but is reality today..... I am loving it... :D

      The details of transaction, where nearly 50k shares were traded today at upper circuit is out now. Not able to figure out anything conclusive from it, as it seems to be a transfer among family members only. :)

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    2. :=D !!!!! Yes today's bulk deal is between two close business associates and probably family members. Both are very active in investment field as googled and found out by me. However, under-current on the counter was very strong today and I lost my few shares :-(

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  14. Hello totalview,
    From where do you get this info of launching?
    Can you provide link?
    As I am new to photoquip, I may miss it somewhere.

    Meanwhile I added Granules between 300-350 in previous months, I think averaging one's initial buying price up with uptrend in the stock is a good strategy rather than averaging in downtrend.

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  15. Corvi range of LED lights were launched by Photoquip in December 2012. March 2014 was the first full year of production. I must say that they launched the product in a grand way participating in all major Domestic and International Exhibitions incurring very heavy cost. Promoters are manufacturers of internationally recognized and acclaimed Elinchrom brand of flashlights and they know the business very well. A couple of industry accepted awards were also bagged by CORVI. Kunal can help you providing various links. However, they have a separate website for CORVI which is very simple. I am told it's B2B website. At this juncture, I should tell you that tired bull unloading of a major shareholder holding around 2% holding is underway and about to be over and that's why softness in share price. However, decision to invest in Photoquip should be entirely yours.

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  16. Hi Kunal,

    Gulshan's last quarter profit were probably inflated due to "nil tax".

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    1. Hi Sameer,

      It's not just about last quarters profit, which has turned the tide for the company. We were bullish on it, since past 2 years I suppose.
      I understand your point, and even if you reduce the EPS by 4 in worst case, they would still stand at a P/E multiple of 7 on CMP, with annual EPS around 27.

      Such a low P/E is not justified looking at their client tele, and their business prospectus. But a trigger was missing to ignite the stock, which came in with those 5 announcements as discussed earlier.

      We were bullish before q4 results, and continue to be bullish on it for long term, looking at overall data.

      Regards.

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    2. 2014-15 should witness topline crossing 400 crores comfortably !!!! Since two of their projects i.e.Bharuch, Gujarat and Muzaffarnagar, UP have gone for capacity expansion and fresh capacity creation at their existing locations it should result into margins improving !!!! I understand that Muzaffarnagar grain based project itself will result into an extra turnover of 40 crores !!!! In the meantime, promoters keep on giving sentimental boost by making small parcels of purchases even at the increased market price which shows their confidence. Any dip below or around 170-172 will be an excellent buying opportunity or even fresh entry !!!!!

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    3. Hi Kunal,

      Some liquidity is in sight !!! Ricoh getting delisted @ 225 :D !!!! Now the issue is investing the proceeds !!!! If you were in my place what will be your best three or five picks out of seventeen !!! Thangamyl and Ricoh are out of race !!!! Absolutely no onus upon you :-D !!!!!

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    4. Ricoh India definitely went above my expectations...

      Best 3 out of 17, neglecting Gulshan, as you might already have enough quantity, would be Dynemic Products, Granules India (even at CMP) and Plastiblends, considering the upsides that other stocks have already got.
      Moving to top 5 would add Munjal Auto, and TCPL Packaging to that list..

      The safest best would still be Ajanta Pharma, even after being a 6 bagger so far... :)

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  17. Hi Kunal,
    Have you checked out the website of the personal care division of Arrow Coated Products. Its called Arrowcare - arrowcare.co.in . They are launching 3 products -Meltz, Klenz and Carez. Looks really good.

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    1. Yes, it is looking really good...

      last replied on it here, use the search functionality:
      http://fundamentalstockideas.blogspot.com/2014/05/ajanta-pharma-q4-fy14-result-updates.html

      No change in views from that. Company is fairly valued as per current numbers, but has tremendous potential to grow. So, there is no undervaluation play, but a good investment option for long term.

      Regards.

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  18. Hi Kunal,

    Do you track Mold-Tek Packaging? Seems like a good bet which is undervalued.

    Regards,
    Jay

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    1. Hi Jay,

      Considering plastic industry, Manjushree when recommended at 158 and Plastiblends at 118, were better bets. But if you have missed those, you can go for Mold-Tek at current levels, since it is trading at 7-8 P/E with a good growth in business.

      Regards.

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  19. Hi Kunal,

    I think market will go down from now due to disturbances in Iraq. It may turn ugly and this is the reason of falling of market on friday. Coming week may show some more downside trend. So is it the good time to book profits and reenter at lower levels?.

    Thanks
    Saahil Ahuja

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    1. HI Saahil,

      It completely depends on your trading strategy. If you have enough time to spare and look for positions to enter/exit, then you can go ahead with your approach.
      But me, being a long term investor, hardly look for such minor ups and downs in market to enter/exit...
      If the event is specific to particular stock, that I am planning to enter, then I would wait, else if it is an event related to overall performance of stock markets, then I dont mind entering at any levels, as sooner or later, I will be rewarded if my study is correct..

      Hope that helps.

      Regards.

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    2. Hi Kunal,

      I appreciate your thoughts. I was thinking that if we already know that market is suppose to go down, then we can book profits now and can buy again at previous level. It will give us profit and we will be invested at same price, will just get some free shares. I am also a long term investor and I don't believe in short term or intraday trading. I was just sharing my thoughts :)

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    3. Sorry for the delayed response, I was travelling yesterday night.

      Regarding you point, my view is that, the markets are mostly driven by a trigger, and it could take it to either direction. As on Friday, we had something, which might take the markets down, for a while, but there is always a possibility, that we could have one more trigger, which could redirect it to upside also.

      Here, in this case, if Crude stabilizes going ahead, or if it comes down a little, markets again, might start moving up. So, you never know, how markets behaves on the basis of news flow.

      I don't remeber the exact date, but there was an instance, some 2 months ago, where markets started 300 points up on positive news flow, and ended 300 points down, because of some negative news flow which came during maket hours, so you cannot rely on that.

      I remeber this day, because many of friends involved in intra-day, lost too much money, on that day. :)

      Hence, I always prefer to be stock specific rather than market specific in my decisions.

      Regards.

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  20. Granules India's Paracetamol API Facility completes U.S. FDA Inspection

    Link: http://www.bseindia.com/xml-data/corpfiling/AttachLive/Granules_India_Ltd_160614.pdf

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  21. Photoquip's promoter buying report...
    Link: http://www.bseindia.com/xml-data/corpfiling/AttachLive/Photoquip_India_Ltd_160614_SAST.pdf

    Any comments totalview?? :D

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    1. Hi Kunal,

      Quantity is small !!! Looking to the number of shares which have been traded June 2014 this 4000 is just peanuts !!! Where are all shares gone and it's quite possible that they have been mopped up by proxies of promoters. But in a way it's good as tired bull-unloading is almost complete and probably this was last of the lots !!!!! Let us hope June 2014 onwards good topline and bottomline will be churned out !!!

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    2. And a big shocker of the day Ricoh India promoters have rejected the exit price of 225 !!!!! There is something more than meets the eye !!!! There was no justifiable reason whatsoever to reject the exit price !!!! Let us hope that true story of reasons will unfold in the days to come. A golden opportunity for investors to enter the scrip at an opportune time !!!! And liquidity gets sucked :-( !!!!!! But without doubt I shall be an aggressive buyer on the counter in the days to come !!!! Prospects are really very bright !!!!! And will not be surprised if in future market price itself crosses 225 !!!!!

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    3. Oh... i didn't check Ricoh's updates...

      Regarding Photoquip, I think, the above report contains 2 rows of info. One is 4k and the other is 10k, which is almost 0.5% shares...
      Lets see if we have more reports going ahead...

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  22. Buy Camlin Fine Sciences; target of Rs 110-128: ICICIdirect

    Link: http://www.moneycontrol.com/mccode/news/article/article_pdf.php?autono=1106011&num=0

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  23. Upper circuit on TCPL...whats the buzz in the stock?

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    1. Don't see anything reportable...
      May be a group of interested investors...

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    2. May be group of interested investors redirected from your blog....keep up the good work going :)

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    3. :D thats too much of an optimism...

      Thanks anyways for that... :D

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  24. Hi Kunal,

    Please suggest me wheter to enter shakti pumps @172 or gulshan polyols @185?
    I need to enter one stock only for long term.

    Thanks
    Saahil Ahuja

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    1. Both of your stocks are excellent for long term, but in terms of valuation, I feel Gulshan Polyols is more attractive at current market price, if you are geniunely thinking long term.

      There is always an option of dividing your investment, when you have confusion between 2 good stocks. It might reduce allocation in both of them, but it also minimizes risk, in case of any unpredicted evennt happening with either of them.

      Still, its your decision finally. But out of 2, I like Gulshan slightly more.

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  25. Please share your views on Jenburkt pharma and Bharat Agri....

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  26. Kunal, any picks from power sector you are tracking and liking?
    -Mayur

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    1. So far, have rejected the entire sector as a whole.... Don't like stocks dependend too much on government policies, unless we have some sheer under-valuation case...

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  27. Once all the punters are out of Ricoh India, and stock stabilizes, I will re-initiate the buy call on the counter...

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    1. Finally got some time, to update the UI of blog... :)

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    2. Nice change :)
      -Anand

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    3. Awesome change.....looking really good :)

      Thanks
      Anshul

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    4. Thats nice view and update Kunal!! Cheers!

      Delete
    5. Thats nice update - more pleasant look I must say.. Kunal! Cheers!

      Delete
  28. Dear Kunal,

    Please suggest me which stock to enter from these two; TCPL Packaging and Gulshan Polyols. The investment horizon is of 2-3 years.

    Thanks
    Rajiv

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    Replies
    1. Hi Rajiv,

      I am not supposed to be biased here, because both of them have strong fundamentals.
      But, considering the current under-valuation and better future growth prospects, I would rate Gulshan Polyols above TCPL.

      Hope that helps.

      Regards.

      Delete
  29. Dear Kunal,

    Thanks for the reply. Apart from Gulshan Polyols, may I enter Dynemic product also.

    Regards
    Rajiv

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes, but because the stock has already appreciated by more than 50% in past 2 months, it might test your patience to get good returns from here on..
      If you similar horizon as mentioned in above query, then I don't think, it should matter...

      Delete
    2. Hi Rajiv,

      I also believe that fresh entry can be made now in both Gulshan polyols and Dynemic products for long term. I personally bought gulshan polyols@184 and dynemic products@41.

      Thanks
      Anshul

      Delete
  30. Hi Kunal,

    Gulshan is consolidating very nicely at CMP !!!! If it corrects further in the range of 170-172 I should turn a buyer :D !!!! It looks likely that a turnover of 420-430 crores should be easily achievable for 2014-15 !!!! With this top line and a NPM of 8-8.5% an EPS of around Rs.40 may be in sight !!!! And by the FY14-15 it should start trading at a PE of 10 !!!! Enough room for growth !!!! And if grain-based distillery makes head-way by the year-end it will be iceing on the cake :D

    But Photoquip requires a trigger very badly in order to break from shackles !!!!!

    ReplyDelete
  31. Hi Kunal,

    Please share your views on Deepak Nitrite. Will we get bonus shares now if we make a fresh entry today?

    Thanks
    Rahul

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hi Rahul,

      I am not tracking Deepak Nitrate.

      But record date is the date, when you should have the shares in your demat.
      Hence, if you buy today, it will be in demat 2 days later.
      So, I think you will not be eligible, if the record date is today.

      Regards,
      Kunal Banker

      Delete
    2. Ok thanks. Can fresh entry be made now in Dhanuka Agritech at price of 390?

      Delete
    3. Don't see any worry for long term investors to enter now, as lot of mutual fund buying happened in the range of 300-400..
      But a poor rainfall might take this stock down for a short peiod..
      If you are ready to face that, you can enter..

      No comment on returns in 1 year or less...

      Delete
  32. Can you shares your views on texmo pipes please considering expansion and products for multi users and infra

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Not tracking it deeply but seems good one for long term.
      It may test your patience, because of already existing high liquidity in the counter...

      Delete
  33. Hi Kunal,

    Please have a look at Trident Ltd.

    totalview

    ReplyDelete
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    1. There are certain sectors which one mostly avoids to have his investment in, and textile, unfortunately, is one of them for me. I have never recommended stocks from that sector, because of several reasons.

      Most importantly, I don't understand the rationale behind fair value given to the stock from this sector.
      The entire sector is trading at a P/E less than 10, so you will find plenty of good options in terms of valuations considering their P/E ratios, but investors might have their own reasons of keeping them at such levels.
      Dependency is too high on cotton prices which might keep margins in check, in spite of operational efficiency. Personally, also, I try to avoid stocks which are heavily dependent on such commodities. Learned that from the example of Thangamyil Jewellery, a year back. Nobody expected the nightmare with Gold companies.
      Hence, don't want to take a similar sort of risk again. It is not that the sector will not perform, but my learning prompts me when I think investing in such companies. It might go the other way with textile sector this time, but still I feel comfortable avoiding it. Its like not putting money into sectors where you do not have enough trust, which is not wrong.

      Secondly, most of the textile stocks are running at a very poor debt:equity ratio. However, Trident, undoubtedly has taken every measures to reduce the debt levels from 3 once, to almost 2 now.

      Thirdly, the competition is very very stiff. The small players which offers a low cost products could affect the sales of some of the big names in domestic markets. Plus the overall economy slowdown in foreign markets, could directly reduce the export orders from Indian companies.
      The FDI in retail, would have helped this industry, at least in making sure that demand doesn't reduce drastically in foreign markets. :)
      There are 2 major problems faced by the companies, one is shortage of power and other is lack of good operational technology. FDI in retail, might have aided the second major problem also.
      Apart from competition faced from local small businesses, China is also trying to prove itself in that same segment, but so far, India is ahead with its quality... :)

      These are some of my viewpoints on the sector, and reasons, why I am skeptical about it.

      You can better ask someone, dealing in such stocks before making your investment. I am not the right person, at least for that sector. :)

      Still, if you ask me a good name from the sector, I will put my finger on Vardhman Textiles.
      But that doesn't mean, its a recommendation.... :D

      Delete
    2. Hi Kunal,

      Thanks for detailed view point. I appreciate it. In the meantime it was locked at UC !!! However, making long term decision requires other factors to be considered other than LC or UC :D

      Cravatex is rocking at Upper Circuit as well as 52-weeks' high with heavy volumes pending. Sold 20% @ 360 :-( !!!!!

      Delete
    3. Of course, my decision on textile sector is not related to judging the possible increase or decrease in the stock price, but its about my low confidence on such investments....
      As you very well know, that we are not just thinking about money, hence we have to look at all the parameters, and based on it, form our belief in any company.

      The best example is our dedicated investment in Photoquip India. Loss of almost 40% in past 3 years... :D :D

      Regarding Cravatex, I am not able to figure out the reason for current up move. It is quite possible, that we might have some announcement made by the company. Otherwise, where from comes these buyers with pending order of almost 6000 shares at upper circuit, on the counter, which almost went untraded around 250 levels, few months back, and that too when we don't have any major change in economy of the country.
      If these are traders, then its a different matter.
      Lets wait and watch.
      I haven't sold any of them yet, and neither I am planning anything like that soon, even if it goes down from here, unless I am in dyer requirement of cash. :)

      Delete
  34. Hi Kunal,

    Please refer some stock from sugar sector as now new policies have been formed in favour of this sector. If some stock is good for medium term, say 1 year.

    Thanks

    Thanks

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Not tracking sugar stocks.
      Another case of heavy dependency on government policy.
      Today the policy is in favour. Tomorrow it might not be.

      Mentioned somewhere above in this post, that I tend to avoid such stocks.

      Delete
    2. Yes I read that thats why I asked, if there is any share which will outperform till the time policies are favouring.

      Delete
    3. Since I have not been tracking any of the stock so far in this sector, it would be misleading if I give you names based on a brief look on various stocks in 1-2 days...

      Hope you understand my position...

      Delete
  35. any new stock on your new dashboard,

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes, there are certain stocks on my radar, but that doesn't mean recommendation as yet.
      These are just some of the stocks I am studying..
      1) Poly Medicure
      2) Aro Granite
      3) Alkyl Amines
      4) FIEM Ind

      Delete
  36. Is Munjal Auto still buy at cmp 77 considering long term views?
    -Mayur

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes, if you are genuinely thinking long term.
      It is still trading at a P/E ratio of 8, with good growth potential ahead...
      I would utilize every dips to buy...

      Delete
  37. After failure of delisting (RBB) on Ricoh India counter huge delivery volumes have been noticed. In last six trading sessions around 25 lac shares have been delivered and share price has taken a U-turn. Today with huge delivery volumes counter was locked at Upper Circuit with 10% upside @ 134 It seems shares have been mopped up by very strong quarters. Good for long term investors at CMP with minor down-sides !!!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes, it is a definite buy, but I am waiting for the trading volumes to come down.
      It will take a month or two, for the stock to settle down at a particular price.
      Waiting for that. :)

      Delete
    2. Sir, please share your views on Ganesha ecosphere. The fundamentals are good and the volume traded is also very low. They recycle the plastic products and are using world class equipmetns to do that.

      Delete
    3. Hmm... was not tracking it... but looks good...
      Will have to study more, to understand the nature of business and its dependencies...
      I will post once I have enough information on it..

      Delete
  38. My que is regarding ricoh.
    With sales of aroud 200+cr , they posted np of 61cr(q4 2013)
    Then with sales of 300+cr , they posted np of 14cr(last q)
    Why such fluctuations? Is their business model not sustainable?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. March 2913 was an exceptional quarter for Ricoh India. They had entered into some lucrative high margin deals which resulted in a NPM of around 25% !!!! However, on a realistic note and keeping in view their business model a NPM of 6 to 8% is achievable !!!! In fact, their business model is more sustainable now with the induction of IT business.

      Delete
    2. You can refer these 2 links for your reference...

      http://oheraldo.in/News/Business%20News/Ricoh-India-records-three-times-growth-in-revenue/89521.html

      http://www.dqchannels.com/dq-channels/news/211484/we-aiming-revenue-2017-ricoh-india

      Delete
  39. Hi,

    You have suggested ybrant digital as good stock for invest to one of queries of members,do you track pressman advertisement company which is also in the similar field and has association with google india and more diversified then ybrant digital.

    ramesh

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    Replies
    1. Hi Ramesh,

      Too early to predict their growth story, as they have entered some reputed associations recently.

      But, if you are looking for something from Media sector, you can have a look at Hindustan Media Ventures. Looks good fundamentally.

      Btw, I am not a fan of Media sector as such.

      Regards,
      Kunal

      Delete
  40. Hi Kunal,

    Any new pharma stock on your radar? I have written about Capital first on my blog. Do you track it?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hi Sameer,

      Capital First is good, but already has a high market cap.
      So, I am not sure of its multibagger potential.

      Among the existing stocks in my portfolio, I feel, Ajanta and Suven are fairly valued now, but are good candidate for long term portfolio.
      Granules India still has some upside left I feel, as far as undervaluation is concerned.

      Among new stocks, I am closely tracking Anuh Pharma. Looking good so far. But I am not hurrying onto the conclusion as yet.

      Regards,
      Kunal

      Delete
  41. Addressing infrastructure issues can aid pharma industry growth: Krishna Prasad, MD, Granules India
    Link: http://www.business-standard.com/content/budget-2014/addressing-infrastructure-issues-can-aid-pharma-industry-growth-krishna-prasad-md-granules-india-114062500791_1.html

    ReplyDelete
  42. People do talk a lot about panacea biotec.......what's your call

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hi Salim,

      Not tracking the stock in detail but resumption of vaccines supply might improve the numbers.
      Still, there are lots of issues to be addressed by the management, especially the debt.. Debt:Equity ratio is almost 2.
      I would rather wait for numbers to improve and then make an entry.
      For now, I am skeptical about the company.

      Regards,
      Kunal

      Delete
    2. What do you think about fluidomat? Can it be multibagger from this levels?

      Delete
    3. The market cap of fluidomat is only 69 Crs. Hence I feel there is more than enough room for the company to be become multibagger from these levels, if they continue to outperform, and impress with their products.

      But somewhere, their success will heavily depends on picking up of growth cycle. That is quite evident looking at their client tele... :)

      Delete
  43. Can you please explain, 1025000 preferential share @100/- 8% dividends , redemption after 12 years in Gulshan polyols? So will these come to market?
    I can understand from the balance sheet that while calculating EPS only 84lakhs shares of FV 5/- are counted.
    A que from non commerce student ;)

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. It depends on how company decides to redeem the preferential shares
      You can go through the details here:
      http://wikieducator.org/Unit_1:_Redemption_of_Preference_Shares

      Plus, I think the period of redemption will be 12th year from the date of its issue on 8% Dividend rate effective from 1st April, 2011, as per the latest annual report.

      Delete
  44. Hi Kunal, m also started tracking Anuh Pharma, saw it consolidated around 150 levels for long time and then ran up to 250 in no time....and surprisingly no big news in the counter...its really hard for me to find undervalueness in any stocks ;-)

    -mayur

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. With sudden change in indian markets, its difficult to judge, what price is considered as an undervalued price... The whole market is getting re-rated...
      For eg., look at the way Ajanta Pharma is moving. Whenever you select a stock, you think of a best case and worst case scenario. Frankly speaking, the journey of Ajanta Pharma has been way way above my best case scenario, thought of, some 2 years back.
      As per data on moneycontrol, it is showing Ajanta Pharma, trading at a P/E multiple of 26 against the average industry P/E of 25. Who would have thought about it.
      So, you cannot judge certain parameters based on which the stock moves.
      That's why just ride on the counter that has strong fundamentals. Don't think much about the stock price.
      That's the best way to go now, it seems. :)

      Delete
    2. Since, I have the similar trauma as you do, I am waiting for budget, to select the next pick, after finding out, which sector is going to benefit from the budget policies...

      Delete
    3. Kunal, run in ajanta pharma is really impressive.
      I am hoping same for granules.
      In case of ajanta pharma, non dependency may be the reason for higher PE. Unlike ajanta, granules is dependant on orders from other pharma companies.
      Its granules business modal, but sometimes I think they should start marketing few of drugs.
      Not holding ajanta :(
      -Anand

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    4. Its sad to see that most of the investors here, are not invested in Ajanta Pharma.
      I feel sad, because its the first recommended stock of this blog..

      I understand that plenty of viewers came later on this blog, and they found Ajanta expensive at every levels. But however, it has not stopped surprising...

      I still feel, its a buy on every dips for steady returns.

      Delete
  45. Dear Kunal can you share your views on some scripts I have come across like trigyn tech, electrsteel casting, indiabulls power

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Will have to spend time on electrosteel castings.
      On consolidated basis, they haven't showed profits in past 3 years. Though, standalone numbers are good. Will have to find out the reasons for heavy loss in subsidiaries.
      Debt is high but considering their net worth, it should not be a big problem.
      The major concern is high liquidity on the counter.

      Difficult to predict the growth in IT companies, unless they have some monopoly.

      Power sector might head for some re-rating with Modi coming to power, but no sure on any specific performers. Btw, IB Power already has a market cap of 3800 Cr.

      Delete
  46. Can you please give fundamental analysis of Max India?
    In good and cash generating businesses.
    Future looking promising.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hi,

      Could you try comparing it with Plastiblends or Manjushree in the same sector, with market cap of only 227 Cr and 386 Cr resp against 7400 Cr market cap of Max India.
      No doubt about Max India might have promising future but I feel, Manjsuhree and Plastiblends might be even better performers.

      Just my opinion. You can definitely take your own decision.

      Btw, Manjushree and Plastiblends were both recommended at much lower levels than current market price.

      All the best!!!!

      Regards.

      Delete
    2. I think they have sold their packaging business.
      I am asking your views on their life and health insurance business future aspects.
      How do you rate this company in this business?

      Delete
    3. Oh, I wasn't tracking the stock, hence didn't had much idea about that. I just saw their sector in bseindia, and gave you the details.
      I will have to check out the aspects based on its operations.
      Will let you know in a day.

      Delete
  47. please share your views on bharat agri...

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Not sure about their core business. Will have to take a deeper look.

      Delete
  48. how is texmaco pipes and surya roshini bot infra and agri related,in the market of supreme industries,astral poly etc which are quoting at life time highs with good business.

    Regards
    ram,hyderabad

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hi Ram,

      Surya Roshni can reward, if contruction business reaches its peak under Modi government.
      If you want to play safe, you can better wait for some hardcore facts & figures showing improvement in the business.
      The results for past 2 years, were mostly flat on account of overall slowdown in growth. It might change in times to come, which might push the stock ahead..
      Can't compare it with likes of Astral and Supreme, who have better management, good operation efficiency and hence better margins, when compared with Surya Roshni.

      Regarding the second stock, I am not sure , which one are you talking about.
      One is texmo pipes, and other is texmaco infra.
      If your query is about texmo pipes, then, I think I mentioned my views, in the same page above.
      Otherwise, I am not tracking Texmaco infra.

      All the best!!!

      Regards.

      Delete
  49. I think, before this quarter, they used to buy from open market in small quantiies on daily basis.
    Now, since, they haven't done buying in past month or so, they went for bulk buying to cover up for that..

    Good to see that..

    ReplyDelete
  50. Have you looked at $aregama? 200 crore market cap but it owns 100 crore worth of CESC shares and unused land worth another 50 crore. So the core music business is available for 50 crore. In latest numbers it has grown 20%, with 50%+ EBIT margin and 50%+ ROIC. It owns the largest music library in India (although most of it is pre-90s it is still valuable as copyright in India is for 60 years). With smartphones and internet penetration, it can drive music downloads through the roof. Marginal cost is limited, so incremental revenues are high margin.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Agree with your views, but it has very less floating shares (only worth 25 Crs).
      In such cases, it is always better that company shows consistent growth in sales and profit.
      When the numbers are inconsistent, the stock can move heavily in either direction.

      If the company shows good profit in coming quarters, you might see a 100% jump within few days, but on the other hand, if something goes unexpected, you can think of similar situation on downside...

      I am mentioning this because, there has been inconsistency in their results in past few years...

      For eg., take a look at movement of Gulshan Polyols, with such low floating shares. Consistency in results for past 5 years, plus strong fundamentals, kept us invested, and as you can see, it took only 2 months to go from 70 to 200.
      We were invested because, we were sure of its steady growth in sales and profit.

      I hope you might have understood what I am trying to say.,

      All the best...

      Delete
    2. Thanks Kunal. That makes sense.

      It appears to be trading at a low PE (FY14 net profit was 17 crore, so core business is trading at 3 PE despite such good return ratios and improving growth. It was making losses till FY11 but since then Net profit have risen from 80 lakh (FY12), 8 crore (FY13) to 17 crore (FY14). They have also just tied up with a new agency to sell their music content overseas (where piracy is less rampant). This could deliver further improvement in the coming quarters.

      http://www.musicweek.com/news/read/believe-digital-signs-deal-with-leading-indian-label-saregama/057510

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    3. Absolutely, I am not denying its potential future growth.
      I also found plenty of experts suggesting higher targets on the counter.
      My idea is just to make you aware about possible violent movement in the stock price.
      I am just saying "Be Aware" not "Beware" :-D

      Delete
  51. Please share your views on Talbros Auto....looking very good for long term...

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Flat to negative sales growth in past 4 years. What did you like about it?

      It had to move up in recent times, with overall positive sentiments in auto sector, but anything specific that you liked about it?

      Compare those 4 years with something like Munjal Auto.

      Delete
  52. Kunal, whats your views on these companies future growth?
    - Finolex cables
    - Greaves Cotton
    - Jyoti Structures

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Finolex cables is fundamentally decent stock, but not sure of its multibagger potential, with their market cap already above 3000 Cr...

      Greaves Cotton is already trading at a P/E ratio of 30, with a very healthy market cap, compared to its sales. Anything specific that you like about it.
      Results are also almost flat for last 3 years.

      No idea about Jyoti Structures, but seems to be highly liquid stock.

      Delete
  53. Hi Kunal,

    Gulshan Polyols closed at 209 after being locked at upper circuit for three consecutive days !!!! It seems the race has just started !!!! After all "Lambi Race ka Ghoda" !!!!! Don't have any intention of selling even a single share !!!! Because the real growth is yet unfold !!!!!

    totalview

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I was going through one of the company involved in equity research, and their release of hidden gem for the month of July. They mentioned few data about the company, which exactly matches with Gulshan Polyols. Not sure if Gulshan is the one, they are talking about. :)

      Delete
  54. Hi krunal,

    Please provide your view on Man Infraconstruction and Swadesi Industry from current price?
    I want to invest in them for a period of one year.

    ReplyDelete
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