Generally, being a small investors, we tend to forget or ignore looking at some of the very important factors, which could drive the stock prices, and then, suddenly, we start questioning ourselves that, in spite of me being invested in very good company, why am I not getting good returns! That probably, could be, because my company, is not that good, on some of the below mentioned parameters.
However, that doesn't mean, that I will start considering only these factors, and ignore others.
These factors come into picture based on context and one has to realize that.
1) ROE (Return On Equity):
It is used as an indicator to figure the company's profitability against the money invested in it. It is calculated by dividing the net income by the shareholders equity.
ROE = (Net Income) / (Shareholder's Equity) * 100 %
ROE is generally calculated and useful, if on average basis for last 3, 5 or 10 years, because 1 year can't be used as an indicative parameter.
Make sure that we compare the ROE within the same sector, as it could be varying depending on the sector, and the average profit that the company in respective sector, makes.
We can expect a higher ROE for the companies with higher growth.
Some of the companies with Average ROE above 30 for past 5 years are Hero Motocorp, Atul Auto, Kaveri Seeds Company, Dhanuka Agritech, Ajanta Pharma, Suven Life Science, Mayur Uniquoters, Symphony, Page Ind, Asian Paints etc.
2) ROCE (Return On Capital Employed):
As we saw that we are using Shareholder's Equity as dividend while calculating ROE. Here in case of ROCE, we will add debt liabilities also as part of dividend, which will make the figure known as total capital employed. Also, instead of using net income, we will be using earnings before interest and tax, as a parameter to calculate ROCE.
ROCE = (Earnings Before Interest & Tax) / (Total Capital Employed) * 100
This is one of the factor which takes a hit, if we have a high debt company. As ROE, ROCE is also generally considered as an average for last 3, 5 or 10 years, and based on sector.
A higher ROCE is indicative of the fact that company is making more effective use of its capital.
Some of the companies with Average ROCE above 30 for past 5 years are Atul Auto, Cera Sanitaryware, Kaveri Seeds Company. Avanti Feeds, Dhanuka Agritech, Mayur Uniquoters, Symphony, Page Ind, Wimplast, Asian Paints etc.
3) ROA (Return On Assets):
It is a measures of what a company earns per each unit of the asset it holds. It represents how efficient the management is in generating income from the assets it has. It is calculated by dividing the net income by total assets on annual basis.
ROA = (Net Income) / (Total Assets) * 100
Again, it varies tremendously based on sectors, so inter-sector comparison is not advisable at all.
The higher ROA is considered better, because the company is earning more money on less investment, which is always taken as positive.
Some of the companies with Average ROA above 30 for past 5 years are Atul Auto, Hero Motocorp, Cera Sanitaryware, Kaveri Seeds Company, Dhanuka Agritech, Mayur Uniquoters, Ajanta Pharma, Symphony, Page Ind etc.
Note:
The entire concept of putting the examples of companies, qualifying each of the selected criteria, is to make readers aware that, why these companies are trading at such high valuations. Just look at all the names mentioned, and check their present value. All may seem trading at very high price, but there is a reason behind it, which is justified above.
Hope it helps!!!!
However, that doesn't mean, that I will start considering only these factors, and ignore others.
These factors come into picture based on context and one has to realize that.
1) ROE (Return On Equity):
It is used as an indicator to figure the company's profitability against the money invested in it. It is calculated by dividing the net income by the shareholders equity.
ROE = (Net Income) / (Shareholder's Equity) * 100 %
ROE is generally calculated and useful, if on average basis for last 3, 5 or 10 years, because 1 year can't be used as an indicative parameter.
Make sure that we compare the ROE within the same sector, as it could be varying depending on the sector, and the average profit that the company in respective sector, makes.
We can expect a higher ROE for the companies with higher growth.
Some of the companies with Average ROE above 30 for past 5 years are Hero Motocorp, Atul Auto, Kaveri Seeds Company, Dhanuka Agritech, Ajanta Pharma, Suven Life Science, Mayur Uniquoters, Symphony, Page Ind, Asian Paints etc.
2) ROCE (Return On Capital Employed):
As we saw that we are using Shareholder's Equity as dividend while calculating ROE. Here in case of ROCE, we will add debt liabilities also as part of dividend, which will make the figure known as total capital employed. Also, instead of using net income, we will be using earnings before interest and tax, as a parameter to calculate ROCE.
ROCE = (Earnings Before Interest & Tax) / (Total Capital Employed) * 100
This is one of the factor which takes a hit, if we have a high debt company. As ROE, ROCE is also generally considered as an average for last 3, 5 or 10 years, and based on sector.
A higher ROCE is indicative of the fact that company is making more effective use of its capital.
Some of the companies with Average ROCE above 30 for past 5 years are Atul Auto, Cera Sanitaryware, Kaveri Seeds Company. Avanti Feeds, Dhanuka Agritech, Mayur Uniquoters, Symphony, Page Ind, Wimplast, Asian Paints etc.
3) ROA (Return On Assets):
It is a measures of what a company earns per each unit of the asset it holds. It represents how efficient the management is in generating income from the assets it has. It is calculated by dividing the net income by total assets on annual basis.
ROA = (Net Income) / (Total Assets) * 100
Again, it varies tremendously based on sectors, so inter-sector comparison is not advisable at all.
The higher ROA is considered better, because the company is earning more money on less investment, which is always taken as positive.
Some of the companies with Average ROA above 30 for past 5 years are Atul Auto, Hero Motocorp, Cera Sanitaryware, Kaveri Seeds Company, Dhanuka Agritech, Mayur Uniquoters, Ajanta Pharma, Symphony, Page Ind etc.
Note:
The entire concept of putting the examples of companies, qualifying each of the selected criteria, is to make readers aware that, why these companies are trading at such high valuations. Just look at all the names mentioned, and check their present value. All may seem trading at very high price, but there is a reason behind it, which is justified above.
Hope it helps!!!!
thank you so much for the info. It will be good if you can post your learnings also about individual stocks, which could help small investors like us....
ReplyDeleteI will try my level best..
DeleteHi Kunal,
ReplyDeletedo you track anuh pharma?
- Gaurav
On my watchlist for long time...
DeleteWill come up with a conclusion soon..
Slightly poor growth in Q2 results has put some doubts in my mind...
Hi
ReplyDeletePlease share ur views on yibrant digital
Positive on business big time, but very much scared about the tremendous amount of competition existing in the sector, and the expected growth in such competition in coming years...
DeleteApart from that, non payment of dividend is worry...
Valuation wise it may look cheap, but not sure, if the company will be able to sustain the growth it achieved in past few years in future also...
What's ur view on amartunjan
ReplyDeletePositive on fundamentals of the company, but not so much on growth so far..
DeleteGood to see company reducing their debt and becoming almost debt free. Also they have been maintaining a good dividend payout..
But market has rewarded such positives, and hence stock is trading at PE of 40..
It can be held on, but personally I feel, there are better bets available in pharma sector..
Thats my personal opinion,,
Dear Kunal
DeleteThanks for the educative topic.
I have one doubt--How to judge a stock based on P/E whether the stock is fairly valued or not?
For eg. Action construction equipment is trading at 81 P/E where industrial PE is 19. DO you think that its highly valued now? Sorry for dumping basic question.
Hi Kabi,
DeleteDon't consider just one factor, while evaluating the company.
Talking about P/E ratio, it is one of the strong factor, but certainly not the only one which will decide correct value, otherwise, earning from stock market will become too easy. Don't you think so? :D
P/E ratio varies from sector to sector and hence P/E of specific company can be compared with the industry P/E, which is the average of that sector.
In above case, Indian Pharma sector is operating at an avg P/E of 24-25.
Hence I said, few companies with similar fundamentals might be available at cheaper rate..
This can't be used as a reference to verify a real estate company, and as such, I am not tracking the entire sector, so it would be difficult for me to comment on Action Construction.
But just remember, that this ratio is not the only factor. The business outlook, future growth prospectus, competition in the industry, market cap of company vs peers, the above 3 ratio mentioned in the post are some of the factors which drive the valuation.
And don't feel shy in throwing any number of questions. You are most welcome. Will try to help with as much as I can.
Regards.
Hi Kunal you said there are better bets available in pharma sector- can you please name one for me which you would rate on top,
DeleteI still feel that likes of Granules India, Aarti Drugs and Anuh Pharma are trading cheaper than their potential in future..
DeleteThere might be more for sure, but as I have only these in my watchlist, I won't comment about the others..
Are you tracking Indag Rubber?
ReplyDeletePlease share your views on it.
Not tracking Indag Rubber..
DeleteSir, what's your view on Astra microwave @ CMP? I see it's moving in a range from long time. Could give a breakout anytime in any direction. What's your take sir?
ReplyDeleteNo doubt about its potential... but promoter selling in recent times has kept the stock in check...
DeleteThe promoter holding is already less, and they are selling further...
Need to figure out a reason..
Hi Kunal, I had sent you details of VIDHI dyestuff on your gmail were you able to go through. Secondly were you able to research on SKM Eggs. Kindly revert.
ReplyDeleteWill go through when time permits...
DeleteRight now, not in position to spare lot of time..
Will reply to mail when I have something conclusive..
Do you think Mayur uniqoter can still reward from the current valuations? Same views with Dhanuka?
ReplyDelete-mayur
No value unlocking left in both the stocks...
DeleteBut growth will continue to drive them with steady returns over the here..
Not sure of multibagger potential from these levels..
Thx
ReplyDeleteKB sir,
ReplyDeletePlease share similar information abour operating /free cash flow and its importance, how to calculate.
Sure, will take up that topic in detail later..
DeleteThanks for sharing this useful information.
ReplyDelete- Yusuf
Whats ur view on Kesar terminal,polyplex and pressman?
ReplyDeletePositive on Kesar Terminal based on current data, have not studied the scope in future and possible growth, but looking at performance in recent times, it is expected to give good quarters atleast for some time now..
DeleteNot tracking others...
some momentum in swiss glascoat also now... good to see that.. thnx..
ReplyDeleteGanesha Ecosphere Ltd has informed that the commercial production of Recycled Polyester Staple Fibre (RPSF) has been started at the Company’s unit situated at Temra, Bilaspur, Distt. Rampur (U.P.), w.e.f. December 01, 2014. The unit is having installed capacity of 21,000 TPA and taking this into account the consolidated RPSF capacity of the Company will reach to 87,600 TPA.
ReplyDeleteso can we expect a up move tomorrow?
DeleteSorry, but I am not tracking short term movements of any stocks...
DeleteThis blog is for long term investors only..
The whole idea of putting the news here is that the readers get to know about any updates related to stocks discussed on this blog...
Dear Anonymous
ReplyDeleteThis is investor blog and not a trader one :)
Looks like you are in wrong place.
Dear Kunal,
ReplyDeleteWhat is your view on Intrasoft technologies. Looks like it is the sole listed company in e-commerce sector. There were some recent tie-ups for this company with some global companies. Considering the future potential for ecommerce, can we buy this stock for long term?
Regards,
Ramesh
Fundamentally it is a good company, and expected to give good quarters looking at recent past. I have the stock in my radar, as I got the name from somewhere else also...
DeleteSo far, it is looking good. Will post if I find somethinf fishy...
Hi kunal hsil has lowered growth from 20 to 15 and also plan to reduce long term debt from 550 to 250 crores. Is it a good news?
ReplyDeleteReducing the debt is any day good for the company, but I am not sure on why they have lowered the guidance when there is plenty of scope in developing country like India..
DeleteCera Sanitaryware have confidently given the target of 30% growth, and they seem to be achieveing that. That is a bit suprising. Will have to check the management interview on reasons for that..
whats ur views on tv today for long term?
ReplyDeletehello and very very good evening sir, Sir i was eagerly waiting your view about Indian toners and developer as i am a investor on it and you have mentioned that you will advise me about it in near future. Thanks very much. GOD BLESS YOU
DeletePositive with a long term view, as mentioned earlier also...
DeleteOne of the better bets in Media space in my opinion...
Hi Hashmat Ali,
DeleteFundamentally, I don't see any issue with Indian Toners & Developers...
I am just trying to understand the product portfolio deeply, and verify if the business & growth are sustainable..
It is still in my radar.. I am just taking time, in understanding things deeply... :)
Regards.
Hi Kunal
ReplyDeleteDo you think, Plastiblend is good at CMP for investment since I missed to include at lower level?
Yes, positive even at this rate, if you are thinking long term..
DeleteHi Kunal how is ship gravures
ReplyDeleteNot tracking Shilp Gravures..
Deletehi Kunal,
ReplyDeleteyour view on indian hume pipe ?
Positive on Indian Hume Pipes...
DeleteThere were few concerns about its lower growth till FY'14, and ROE being pretty less...
However, this year has been very good so far, and is likely to continue...
Stock is not at all undervalued at present, but future growth and margin improvement could drive the stock price going ahead...
Hello mr kunal as happy& healthy. Start of new year for you. As suggested by you I posting in recent thread as per the sharon bio medcine sept qtr pl item 14 says as 21.1 cr Rs 10 paid up share assuming 1:1 bonus my query is with a split of shares to 2 whether the outstanding EQ now will be 21.1*5 ie 100 cr equity shares of Rs 2 face value.
ReplyDeleteI was in indore this new year I enquirer about ANAND kumar kedia of ASSOCIATED ALCHOLOL with IDBI ( holding term loan) they clarified that it is a good account. Anand family is from UK and has decent name in MP I could not find any legal/political conterversy in his name Central excise dept Oslo clarified they have given 135 kpl permission for imfl bottling for AA THIS YEAR. I visited the factory in KANDWA RD right to UMARIA CHOCK around 50 km from indore seems recently renovated and looking good I didn't get a chance to go inside as you said we watch for two qtrs sustainable growth and can decide. Thank you.
Thank you very much for new year wishes. Wish you the same.
DeleteAlso thanks for the information shared..
Regarding Sharon Bio, the share capital of the company doesn't change in case of split. It only increases in case of bonus, based on the bonus ratio..
Sharon Bio had a share capital of 10.56 Cr in Dec'13, which got increased to 21.1 Cr in Mar'14, based on 1:1 bonus given by the company in Feb'14...
Split has no effect on share capital of the company.
Please read the below post in detail, which will clarify your doubts:
http://fundamentalstockideas.blogspot.com/2013/07/stock-bonus-vs-stock-split.html
Hope that helps!!
Regards.
Happy New Year Kunal and fellow readers of this blog!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThank you so much and wish you the same!!!
DeleteHi Kunal,
ReplyDeleteWish and your family a very happy new year!!
Regards,
Jaychand Tatineni
Thank you so much Jaychand Tatineni...
DeleteWish the same to you and your family!!!!
happy new year sir. what ur view on niit,sangi industries,mcx and sudharsan chemical for long term?
ReplyDeleteThanks and Happy New Year to as well..
DeletePositive on Sudarshan Chemicals for long term...
Not tracking others...
Wish u very Happy and Prosperous New Year!!!
ReplyDeleteThank you and wish you the same!!!!
Deletesir would u like to buy polyplex for long term ?
ReplyDeleteNot tracking it...
DeleteHai kunal happy new year I saw you and kumaresh discussing about ASSOCIATED ALCHOLOL I wish to add that Mr.KEDIA has a good chance of signing agreement with UK based scoth manufacturer for bottling in india( already have one with HAIG) they also hold agreement with MASON & SUMMERS. there grain based triple Distelled exta pure is highly in demand already has supply agrement for SMIRNOFF,GREY GOOSE,ABSOLUTE VODKA. they are going to commission there the own power generation VEDANTA ENERY. The website details
ReplyDeletehttp://trioventsofttech.com/aabl/aboutus
http://www.mpexcise.org/manufacturers.html
Also they have consent letter from MP pollution control board for 125 kpl ENA so no problem from that side this is only a way verifying the facts. As kumaresh has said the distellery is modern one with new technology. As you guys have pointed out even iam waiting and watching because of the sector. Iam not good at judging the price of the stock but deep down I feel there is value in this stock how far the market can treat this no idea but if the hist data has to be taken there fy 16 rev has to be above 400 cr and Operating profit in the range of 40/45 cr even at resonable 5 EVEBITA I see value in this. But whether growth will be same in future is what to be watched. Thank you
Kunal in your recent list ORIENTAL CARBON AND PODDAR PIGMENTS has really potential to grow, with low debt niche products I think both are a worthy find for SIP Investment.
Thank you so much for the detailed info, will definitely your points while studying...
DeleteYes, I am still positive on Oriental Carbon and Poddar Pigments (but was surprised to see sales degrowth in Poddar last quarter)...
Why does Associated Alcohol carry so much cash on BS. Pays no dividend and takes on costly debt. If you have some understanding please share.
ReplyDeleteThat is why we are going deep into the details of promoters...
DeleteLets wait for the outcome..
can we expect PNB Gilts to report good results due to consistent fall in yields? if you track it...
ReplyDelete-Mayur
I am not tracking PNB Gilts, but if I remember correctly, totalview has been tracking it since long time. May be he can give you a better idea, than me being investigating it in hurry..
DeleteLets wait for totalview to give his comments if any..
Otherwise, I will study it and let you know in detail..
Going by the fall in yields by around 65-67 bps, and based on past performance under similar circumstances subject to no trading hara kiri done during the quarter, results are expected to be outstanding and I would eke out and say superlative results. No onus !
Deletetotalview
thanks kunal sir
DeleteThanks totalview for sharing positive thoughts, however, I didn't get the terms - no trading hara kiri..what does that mean? How will that impct the company?
Delete-Mayur
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hara-kiri-swap.asp
DeleteOK I shall try to make it simpler !! Hara kiri is a Japanese term for suicide and since Japanese entrepreneurship is the flavor of the season I thought it prudent to use it. PNB Gilts is a primary dealer in gilts (popularly known as Govt bonds) and they trade it on intra day, overnight, short term basis very actively and which is a source of their extra-bux as well. Unless they have played against the current they can't loose money. I sincerely hope that they can't loose money in trading being quite experienced and their robust risk management being in place.
DeleteHope it helps.
totalview
what is your view on Caprihans ltd. a MNC , debt free, dividend paying but 51% equity pledged
ReplyDelete71% of the promoter shareholding is pledged...
DeletePlus, I am not at all happy with sales and profit growth over last 5 years (Profit de-growth)...
This year is looking good so far, but still not good enough to impress..
I would rather wait for immediately drawing conclusion of it...
Kunal sir, every pharma company is moving well but why RPG life science , a company from RPG group is not moving.
ReplyDeleteNot tracking it and didn't find it attractive either... Sales have been going down in both the quarters this year..
DeleteI generally don't reply to anonymous but since kunal has given you reply I writing this your query on ASSOCIATED ALCHOLOL regarding debt in BS if you notice the large debt is on long term read annual report term loan from IDBI bank for capex spending. Total outstanding debt as per AR 56 cr. other short term debt is on running capital. Also the cash is generally carried by people in this Buisness if you have a molasses based distellery and grain based distellery it becomes important to carry cash. Also please note they have the lowest TRADE RECIEAVABLE IN THE INDUSTRY. and the inventory is also resonable. But as you pointed out DIVIDEND record is lacking poin
ReplyDeleteplease check spel semiconductor. thanks.
ReplyDeleteNot tracking SPEL Semiconductor..
DeleteHi Kunal,
ReplyDeleteWhat is your view on Jagan Lamps? It is a consistent performer for the past 5 yrs. It has shown phenomenal growth in Q2. Currently trading less than book value.
Regards,
Bhuvana
Hi Bhuavana,
DeleteHere are few of my concerns on the company.
1) I don't know how do you see it, but from where I can see, the compounded sales growth for last 3 years is 0.64%..
2) Profit growth has been decent over the years, then, why company is not paying out dividend..
3) ROE has been extremely low over past many years..
With just a better Q2, I won't jump into the conclusion about the company..
I would rather make a late entry, but only after confirming the company being good on all parameters...
Regards.
Thank you Kunal
DeleteHI Kunal.
ReplyDeletepls share ur views on below shares
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1)Delta corp
2)Pennar industries
3)Granules india
4)Gujarat Pipavav
5)carrer point
6)Indoco remedies
7)carborundum universal
8)Mangalam Cement Ltd.
Regards,
Sunil vijay
Hi Sunil,
DeleteGranules India is already suggested and discussed stock on this blog since 2012.. please check left hand side widget..
Apart from that, I like Pennar Ind to an extent, Gujarat Pipavav, Indoco Remedies...
Not tracking others.
Regards.
What is your view on Patels Airtemp?
ReplyDeleteLike the company, but disappointed with growth so far in past years...
DeleteHowever, with some big orders received by the company off late, I am expecting it to perform better in coming times..
Hence I would be positive in the company...
Small cap, good margins, may prove to be a good multiplier with two years time frame !!! promoters have been continuously increasing and consolidating their stake at CMP !!
Deletetotalview
hi kunal,
ReplyDeletei am interested to know your view on apm industries. company with good clientele and dividend history still available @ 24(less than 6PE)
Thanks,
Balaji
Heard it for the first time, but on first look, it seems past 4 years has been absolutely flat in terms of sales and profit growth..
DeleteCompare it with likes of Manjushree or TCPL in the similar industry...
The company may do better in future, but currently not qualifying on some of my important parameters..
Sorry kunal,Company name is ADM industries not APM industries.
DeleteLast year onwards commercial venture started contributing in a big way , which provides clear profit visibility going forward because which is hardly 5km from IG airport. Moreover company clientele includes coca cola,SAB miller, UB beverages. as part of core business. what is the reason for dividend announcement and 5% stake increment by promoters from open market?
Thanks,
Balaji
I think you mean to say AMD Ind..
DeleteAnd I have mentioned about that same company only in above reply..
In general, I am not a fan of companies being involved in multiple business as such...
Still, I will try to dig in further if I find anything more...
Kunal, have recieved an email from Dynemic regarding circular on inviting Fixed Deposits..
ReplyDeleteThough, they have been running FD scheme since long time why they need money when sittin gon good cash and whats their plan by raising money from investors?
Any idea?
-mayur
Haven't checked the mail yet, nor do I have any idea. Will have to check with management on that..
DeleteGoing busy these days, will find time to do sometimes later... :)
HI Kunal.
ReplyDeleteEagerly waiting for ur next idea
pls share ur thoughts on 1)ARROW TEXTILES LTD 2)Ahmednagar Forgings Ltd .correted from 520 to 320 3)Amrutan jan health care
Hi Sudheer,
DeleteNot tracking Arrow Textiles.
Apart from that, both of your stocks are contradicting each other in terms of investor's approach on them.. :)
Amrutanjan has been taken positively based on one of the important factor that it is almost a debt free company, but somewhere their past growth is mediocre.
This year has been good so far..
On the other hand, Ahmednagar Forgings has posted tremendous growth so far, but debt levels are very very high, which has kept the stock price in check...
Being a long term investor, I am positive on Ahmednagar Forgings. In case of Amrutanjan, the company is good, but I feel there are other better bets available in pharma sector..
Regards,
Kunal Banker
Hi Kunal, have you changed your positions based on current downtrend in markets?
ReplyDeleteIts been ages now since I have been commenting that I am not judging my stocks on basis of daily movements, and I am not involved or interested in short term trading activities... :)
DeleteWhats the buzz with Garware Wall Ropes?
ReplyDeleteNothing Reportable...
DeleteFIIs and MFs have increased their stake in Ricoh India continuously in the last three quarters. Now their stake stands at 0.47% and 2.66% respectively translating into around 12.50 lakh shares. It will be pertinent to note that uptil March 2014 there was no investment in Ricoh India from FIIs and DIIs. And icing on the cake is that majority of this acquisition is at an average price of Rs.300 !!!!!
ReplyDeletetotalview
Few Updates :
Delete1) http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/stocks-views/ricoh-india-may-test-rs-325-gaurav-bissa_1265618.html
2) http://mobilityindia.com/ricoh-india-launches-a-new-range-of-interactive-ultra-short-throw-projectors/
3) http://www.efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=154693
4) http://cityairnews.com/content/ricoh-india-expands-its-3600-experience-and-new-it-services-offerings-punjab
Hi kunal, you explained earlier about sharon bio-medicine. are you positive on it ?
ReplyDeleteIt was just about the calculations of its share capital..
DeleteAs such, I am not tracking the stock..
thanks kunal for u r fruitful recommendation. hope u will find time to reply query of investors.............
ReplyDelete